In this episode, Phil interviews two deep thinkers, authors and fascinating people; Khurshed Denugara and Claire Genkai-Breeze (links to bios below). We start with the idea of willingness as an underrated human trait. The willingness to ‘as you go’ share your weaknesses or flaws and be willing to work hard at the moment. We talk about ‘near enemies’ of things and as an example; the near enemy of being flawed but willing is the protocol of sharing weaknesses because that is what ‘should be done. As well as talking around the ideas and experiences we have with our flaws and vulnerability we get into tips, techniques and advice for how as individuals and as colleagues at work, we can help with that. We also talk about how leadership is changing over time and the identity challenges that can bring so that leaders can be set and ready for the future. We talk a lot about the emotional aspects and experience of leadership and how we ‘denumb’ people from the way that leadership is approached. What Phil found really interesting is that spontaneously during the conversation, each of the participants was acknowledging their flaws and willing to listen and share with each other along the way. In his introduction, Phil says that he got ‘lost’ in this chat and forgot his role of host. Hopefully, he still did a good job with the podcast. Enjoy ;-))
Guests:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/khursheddehnugara/?ppe=1
https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-genkai-breeze-48b30935/
Books:
Flawed but willing – https://www.amazon.co.uk/Flawed-but-Willing-Organizations-Connection/dp/1907794778/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=6QX9GE805T46YEJKH7H2
The Challenger Spirit – https://www.amazon.co.uk/Challenger-Spirit-Organizations-Disturb-Status/dp/1907794646/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
Videos:
Brene Brown on Vulnerability – https://youtu.be/iCvmsMzlF7o
Goffman and ‘lines’ – https://youtu.be/zyvIYc9s__M
Other links:
Equanimity – http://www.insightmeditationcenter.org/books-articles/articles/equanimity/
Tim Smit and the Eden Project – http://www.edenproject.com/eden-story/about-us/sir-tim-smit-kbe#CKjcAIEzQUOkYLRO.97
Suggested reading
World as lover and world as self – Joanna Macy
Bearing witness – Roshi Bernie & Glassman
If you would prefer to read the podcast click here: Transcription – Episode 7 – Emotion at Work in Vulnerability and Leadership